FRONT DIFF P700 "05" COUPLING BEVEL

PRAIRIEDOG700 · 02-26-2009, 06:03 PM

OK I got around to fixing my 2005 p700 I had a front diff leak coming from the back of the front diff where the propeller shaft inserts into diff ok BIG SEAL around the coupling bevel and small one in the coupling bevel. Well I've been doing some reading and most people say if it leaks real bad it's probably because of the small seal so I took the nut lock 10mm off and checked it out ...... turns out I THINK it's the coupling bevel because it's got wear in to it where the big seal meets the surface... question is can it be cleaned up some with emery cloth or something more aggressive or will that take down the size of the couling bevel to much I think they go for $ 60.00 let me know and if your seal is leaking GET IT FIXED SOONER THAN LATER ! not like me.... her are some pic's of the scuffed up coulping bevel kind of hard to see but you get the Idea Thanks for any and all imput Anthony
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**asnowmobiler** · 02-26-2009, 06:13 PM

It's tough to tell from pictures,but it looks like it should be replaced. Mine has marks in it also,but they don't look that bad. I just installed a new seal,it won't be long till I see if it ok or not.

RKelly · 02-28-2009, 12:48 PM

I would just shim the seal out a little and let it run in a new place.

**asnowmobiler** · 02-28-2009, 01:20 PM

I'm not sure if that would be a good idea. It has teeth on it that would not be fully engaged if it's out farther.

RKelly · 02-28-2009, 02:19 PM

A shim under the seal. It will put the lips in a new location.

**asnowmobiler** · 02-28-2009, 02:25 PM

That just might work

RKelly · 02-28-2009, 02:34 PM

I do it all the time. It works good if you have a good suffice for the seal to run on.

**speedy81304_KVF700** · 02-28-2009, 08:03 PM

its kinda cool how rubber can wear out metal.

not saying that its cool your part is worn in.

but you would think that the seal would wear to nothing and the metal would just have a polished shin on it.

but then you got the dirt and grit that gets in there and works like a grinding wheel.

you can do what im going to do. is have the part cleaned then dipped in chrome. to make it nice and hard.

i wanted to find out if i could get a nikasil coating on it like whats found in sport bike cylinders. very hard thin coating last 4x longer then an iron cylinder.

this coating would not wear the seal would wear faster.

something to think about.

NovaKaw650 · 02-28-2009, 09:05 PM

I would just replace the inner and outer seals; I bet your leak will be gone regardless of the grooving in the metal.

PRAIRIEDOG700 · 03-01-2009, 11:20 AM

Yea thanks guys for the imput I'm gona just but a new BEVEL $ 65.00 pluse tax ( ordered on FRIDAY they will have it WED ) but what SUCKS is we are about to get the MOTHER OF SNOW STORMS TONGHT 8-14 inches AND THE MACHINE IS DOWN I guess i will be shoveling or might RIG something up with the plow and a POLARIS 330 I have here either way My daughter and I will be riding later in the snow having a kick ass time ANTHONY

02-26-2009, 06:13 PM	#2
asnowmobiler Premium Member Feedback Score: 3 reviews Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Western Poconos (SOON) Posts: 14,214 (20)	It's tough to tell from pictures,but it looks like it should be replaced. Mine has marks in it also,but they don't look that bad. I just installed a new seal,it won't be long till I see if it ok or not. __________________ Team Green 04 V-Prairie, Ported AMR 730,XX cams,Digatron gauges,VFJ custom clutch with EBC bearing removed,V-force gears,Dirty South +5 swingarm,39mm carbs, Looney Tuned Exhaust, programmable Dyna,front Elkas,30 shot of Boon,Brute Force Flywheel,Flexx bars,Rox Risers,ODI grips,ECT. AMR 330 347 6800

02-28-2009, 12:48 PM	#3
RKelly Senior Member Feedback Score: 0 reviews Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 143 (0)	I would just shim the seal out a little and let it run in a new place. __________________ 05 BRUTE FORCE 750 04 V Force 87 230 quadsport kids Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms Who is bringing the chips? Sounds like a party to me.

02-28-2009, 01:20 PM	#4
asnowmobiler Premium Member Feedback Score: 3 reviews Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Western Poconos (SOON) Posts: 14,214 (20)	I'm not sure if that would be a good idea. It has teeth on it that would not be fully engaged if it's out farther. __________________ Team Green 04 V-Prairie, Ported AMR 730,XX cams,Digatron gauges,VFJ custom clutch with EBC bearing removed,V-force gears,Dirty South +5 swingarm,39mm carbs, Looney Tuned Exhaust, programmable Dyna,front Elkas,30 shot of Boon,Brute Force Flywheel,Flexx bars,Rox Risers,ODI grips,ECT. AMR 330 347 6800

02-28-2009, 02:19 PM	#5
RKelly Senior Member Feedback Score: 0 reviews Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 143 (0)	A shim under the seal. It will put the lips in a new location. __________________ 05 BRUTE FORCE 750 04 V Force 87 230 quadsport kids Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms Who is bringing the chips? Sounds like a party to me.

02-28-2009, 02:25 PM	#6
asnowmobiler Premium Member Feedback Score: 3 reviews Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Western Poconos (SOON) Posts: 14,214 (20)	That just might work __________________ Team Green 04 V-Prairie, Ported AMR 730,XX cams,Digatron gauges,VFJ custom clutch with EBC bearing removed,V-force gears,Dirty South +5 swingarm,39mm carbs, Looney Tuned Exhaust, programmable Dyna,front Elkas,30 shot of Boon,Brute Force Flywheel,Flexx bars,Rox Risers,ODI grips,ECT. AMR 330 347 6800

02-26-2009, 06:03 PM	#1
PRAIRIEDOG700 Member Feedback Score: 0 reviews Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: LONG ISLAND, NY where u cant RIDE Posts: 64 (0)	OK I got around to fixing my 2005 p700 I had a front diff leak coming from the back of the front diff where the propeller shaft inserts into diff ok BIG SEAL around the coupling bevel and small one in the coupling bevel. Well I've been doing some reading and most people say if it leaks real bad it's probably because of the small seal so I took the nut lock 10mm off and checked it out ...... turns out I THINK it's the coupling bevel because it's got wear in to it where the big seal meets the surface... question is can it be cleaned up some with emery cloth or something more aggressive or will that take down the size of the couling bevel to much I think they go for $ 60.00 let me know and if your seal is leaking GET IT FIXED SOONER THAN LATER ! not like me.... her are some pic's of the scuffed up coulping bevel kind of hard to see but you get the Idea Thanks for any and all imput Anthony http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm67/pr...PLINGBEVEL3.jpg http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm67/pr...PLINGBEVEL2.jpg http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm67/pr...PLINGBEVEL1.jpg

02-28-2009, 02:34 PM	#7
RKelly Senior Member Feedback Score: 0 reviews Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 143 (0)	I do it all the time. It works good if you have a good suffice for the seal to run on. __________________ 05 BRUTE FORCE 750 04 V Force 87 230 quadsport kids Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms Who is bringing the chips? Sounds like a party to me.

02-28-2009, 08:03 PM	#8
speedy81304_KVF700 Premium Member Feedback Score: 0 reviews Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NEPA Posts: 2,395 (0)	its kinda cool how rubber can wear out metal. not saying that its cool your part is worn in. but you would think that the seal would wear to nothing and the metal would just have a polished shin on it. but then you got the dirt and grit that gets in there and works like a grinding wheel. you can do what im going to do. is have the part cleaned then dipped in chrome. to make it nice and hard. i wanted to find out if i could get a nikasil coating on it like whats found in sport bike cylinders. very hard thin coating last 4x longer then an iron cylinder. this coating would not wear the seal would wear faster. something to think about. __________________ 2004 RED P700 Trail monster 2" lift kit 1.5" wheel spacers. 28"mudlight XL's 10x12 frts 12x12 rears Amsoil 0w-40 engine oil / Frnt Diff Amsoil 5w-30 rear diff (hydraulic/transmission oil) Water Wetter mixed 25% coolant 75% water Twin air ProFlow filter, Dyno Jet needles Muzzy Full System, Denso Iridium plugs #IU22. "Freebie" Moose Module & 6deg key installed EPI Primary and secondary springs. VFJ stage 3 spider mod, machined secondary. Full set EPI black springs with custom front preload spacers. SOON VFJ crossover INTAKES AND VFJ dyno tuning

02-28-2009, 09:05 PM	#9
NovaKaw650 Senior Member Feedback Score: 2 reviews Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 2,193 (0)	I would just replace the inner and outer seals; I bet your leak will be gone regardless of the grooving in the metal. __________________ 2002 665 FPS Prairie FPS Trail kit - 12:1 comp due to 1mm shaved off the heads Mild porting Crossover intakes Modded airbox Full Muzzy Dalton springs and weights Other stuff

03-01-2009, 11:20 AM	#10
PRAIRIEDOG700 Member Feedback Score: 0 reviews Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: LONG ISLAND, NY where u cant RIDE Posts: 64 (0)	Yea thanks guys for the imput I'm gona just but a new BEVEL $ 65.00 pluse tax ( ordered on FRIDAY they will have it WED ) but what SUCKS is we are about to get the MOTHER OF SNOW STORMS TONGHT 8-14 inches AND THE MACHINE IS DOWN I guess i will be shoveling or might RIG something up with the plow and a POLARIS 330 I have here either way My daughter and I will be riding later in the snow having a kick ass time ANTHONY

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