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08-31-2009, 09:05 AM
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Crossover Jetting
Ok how much does the jetting change with the crossover intakes on a closed air box?
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08-31-2009, 09:55 AM
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To my understanding your going to be wasting your time if you are not going to open up the lid.
2007 650 SRA UPP intake, closed lid, DG snorkel, and Muzzy 155f 155r
2005 V 700 UPP intake, 12 hole lid, Muzzy pro 5/64 (or 3/32 cant remember) drilled mains front and rear.
Whit a closed lid I guess you be around 150 to 160. That's where I'd start anyway
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2007 Brute Force 665= VFJ clutch, 82mm pistons, CWR 418 cams, Custom BKuzzy exhaust, K&N filter, UPP intake, Electric fuel pump, Fan switch, 42 pilots
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08-31-2009, 10:22 AM
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Im staying with the air box unmodded. I tried the 12hole and got better performace with it closed. I mean I have a unmodded air box and have had no problems with a race yet no matter what it was. I have been beat once and that person knows who they are.
Anyhow I found this interesting with that you said!
Quote: Originally Posted by VFORCEJOHN
I have got better results with closed airbox and Napa hose mod. both Dyno and track.
12 hole mod has decent power on top, but low end power "wheelie power" is less.
closed airbox is just a hair faster
150-155 range stock intakes
145-150 crossover intakes with these and closed box. you have to jet down
John
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08-31-2009, 11:39 AM
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Open the box!
I got a thread in here somewhere titled "return of snap". It does act more responsive and feel like the closed box is better but it is a short lived feel.
The V has no problem impressing with it's low end even stock. It's where you don't feel it that it really comes into play but will notice it instead.
I have to say though that I have not tested this against the napa hose mod but if that were true wouldn't just fewer holes and only up front get a similar result?
Whats the gaff now man?
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08-31-2009, 02:58 PM
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The closed box...That's on a prairie. the 12 hole mod isn't that great as the plastics hug the airbox cover on a stock prairie. Not true for a vforce
do the 12 hole mod and jet with #43 drilled jet and a 42 series 74C pilot
easy...
John
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08-31-2009, 05:23 PM
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That's what John suggested for mine (with the 12-hole mod) when I installed the cross-over intakes and it runs AWESOME! He really took all the guesswork out of getting them jetted. I would have never thought I would have needed jets that large but it runs great.
Mine seems to be just a little less cold-blooded and has even snappier throttle response now that I put in a 6-degree key but I haven't had a chance to do a test ride yet.
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Fundy 11.1:1 Pistons, FST Stage 2 cams, Ceramic-coated Muzzy Exhaust, +4 Swingarm Extension, 12-Hole Mod, UPP Cross-over Intakes, 3/32" drilled main jets, #42 pilots, 3 shims/needle, Elka Front Shocks, Revalved Rear Shock w/ Road Magnet Spring, CCP Steering Stabilizer, TrailTech X-bars/Clamp, Pro-Armor nerfs--bumper--grab bar, 25x12-10 10-paddle Extremes on 10x11 wheels, VFJ #6 Clutch Spring w/ 2 shims... BOSS NOSS 30-shot
'04 KFX700
DMC Afterburner Quiet4 Dual Exhaust, 12-hole Airbox Mod, Crossover Intakes, #45 drilled main jets, shimmed needles, 6* Timing Advance Key, Spark Plug Boot Mod, Road Magnet Suspension Springs, 24x11-10 8-paddle Skat-Trak Extremes on 10x10 wheels, EPI Pink Spring

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08-31-2009, 06:06 PM
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Yeppers, i ddi the UPP mod myself and jetted 3/32 and 42 pilot and 12 hole mod and a 730 kit and all i can say is WOW. My buddy has a stock V and he did the UPP intake mod him self, exact same as mine and it made a huge difference on his bike also. like john did one time on a stock motor and got an impressive 4-6 HP increase. i rode it also and it felt real good. you really need to open the lid up to get all the potential out of your machine.
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08-31-2009, 06:17 PM
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Yeah, I think that now that I have installed the 6-degree key on my green V I am about to the end of the mods that can be done to a stock bore.
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'04 KFX730
Fundy 11.1:1 Pistons, FST Stage 2 cams, Ceramic-coated Muzzy Exhaust, +4 Swingarm Extension, 12-Hole Mod, UPP Cross-over Intakes, 3/32" drilled main jets, #42 pilots, 3 shims/needle, Elka Front Shocks, Revalved Rear Shock w/ Road Magnet Spring, CCP Steering Stabilizer, TrailTech X-bars/Clamp, Pro-Armor nerfs--bumper--grab bar, 25x12-10 10-paddle Extremes on 10x11 wheels, VFJ #6 Clutch Spring w/ 2 shims... BOSS NOSS 30-shot
'04 KFX700
DMC Afterburner Quiet4 Dual Exhaust, 12-hole Airbox Mod, Crossover Intakes, #45 drilled main jets, shimmed needles, 6* Timing Advance Key, Spark Plug Boot Mod, Road Magnet Suspension Springs, 24x11-10 8-paddle Skat-Trak Extremes on 10x10 wheels, EPI Pink Spring

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08-31-2009, 06:31 PM
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Once I make these crossovers I will just check the A/F and rejet if I need to and see what it does. I guess I waited too long on doing this since its going BBK this winter
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08-31-2009, 06:32 PM
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So you're doing the MS Mod or buying the UPP X-over intakes?
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'04 KFX730
Fundy 11.1:1 Pistons, FST Stage 2 cams, Ceramic-coated Muzzy Exhaust, +4 Swingarm Extension, 12-Hole Mod, UPP Cross-over Intakes, 3/32" drilled main jets, #42 pilots, 3 shims/needle, Elka Front Shocks, Revalved Rear Shock w/ Road Magnet Spring, CCP Steering Stabilizer, TrailTech X-bars/Clamp, Pro-Armor nerfs--bumper--grab bar, 25x12-10 10-paddle Extremes on 10x11 wheels, VFJ #6 Clutch Spring w/ 2 shims... BOSS NOSS 30-shot
'04 KFX700
DMC Afterburner Quiet4 Dual Exhaust, 12-hole Airbox Mod, Crossover Intakes, #45 drilled main jets, shimmed needles, 6* Timing Advance Key, Spark Plug Boot Mod, Road Magnet Suspension Springs, 24x11-10 8-paddle Skat-Trak Extremes on 10x10 wheels, EPI Pink Spring

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