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02-08-2010, 10:46 AM
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Paddles versus A/t
I noticed that my paddles are 20", while my A/Ts are 22". This seems to give the paddle-equipped quad a better holeshot. Is there a reason for the size difference, besides the fact that i got them used?
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2004 KFX 700, Quadzilla (green), Muzzy pipe, Twin-Air filter, 42.5 pilots, 155f, 160r jets, screws out 2.5 turns, 6* key, White bros CDI, 2 washers on needles, polished slides. Carbon fiber snorkel/scoop.
2004 KFX 700, Pumpkin (orange), FMF pipe, repacked FMF Titanium 4 muffler with "quiet" insert, K&N/Outerwears filter, 40 pilots, 145 f, 150 r jets, screws out 1.75 turns, washer on needles, polished slides.
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02-08-2010, 11:30 AM
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I'm not sure what you're asking...
In general, tires are available in a wide range of sizes...
Quad manufacturers install whichever tire they feel gives the best overall performance in a wide range of applications for which they have targeted the particular quad to meet.
Tire manufacturers produce tires they feel will sell best based upon market research of how specific vehicles are used.
Paddle tires are designed for sand, a very popular offroading market...
therfore I'm sure many sizes are available in many different heights...20" being yours.
widths...8.5...9.75...10...or 11" for example..
and rim size...stock being 10" ....
the reason you feel a better hole shot is had with the 20" padles may not have anything to do with tire size...
it may be due to the tread design...again paddles are specifically designed for sand...
A/T tires are an All Terrain tire for general use...
Depending on what you're doing you either have to try many different combinations to find the optimum performance...
or use what the manufacturer sugests and live with mediocrity...
I hope this helps you some...
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02-08-2010, 05:01 PM
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Gardog---Pretty technical guy 
The 20" paddles will prove to be too small for the heavy V and will dig you in too much in the sand---The A/T tires are for hard pack and 22" is good---In the sand they dig in and get stuck---I bing mine to the dunes with me and put them on to play with---You can slide and drift forever with them---But if I'm going to follow someone out to the dunes I put the paddles back on.
Kenny
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02-08-2010, 05:02 PM
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LOL, I was running it on my lawn checking it out for this weekend. When I gassed it, neither quad spun. I just figured that the shorter tire would provide a different effective gear ratio, making it quicker, but not as fast, similar to running 4.11:1 gears rather than 3.50:1 gears in a car.
I figured out that I'm not getting optimum performance - the Kaws are for the kids to ride while I ride my Raptor. What I don't know is if the Raptor or the Kaw will be the faster/quicker ride. Mostly, I want the bikes to be reliable and safe.
Oh, the baby weighs 250 or so, so it isn't like I'm trying to kill her with all these mods....
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2004 KFX 700, Quadzilla (green), Muzzy pipe, Twin-Air filter, 42.5 pilots, 155f, 160r jets, screws out 2.5 turns, 6* key, White bros CDI, 2 washers on needles, polished slides. Carbon fiber snorkel/scoop.
2004 KFX 700, Pumpkin (orange), FMF pipe, repacked FMF Titanium 4 muffler with "quiet" insert, K&N/Outerwears filter, 40 pilots, 145 f, 150 r jets, screws out 1.75 turns, washer on needles, polished slides.
Both airboxes modified by cutting out the "wall".
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02-08-2010, 05:30 PM
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02-08-2010, 05:31 PM
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If neither of your 700's will spin the tires, you have some problems.
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02-08-2010, 06:35 PM
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You're right Kenny, 20" paddles do dig too much for the V. I realized this on mine when I ran them (got them from the guy I bought the bike from). Now I run 24's.and they work great.
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02-08-2010, 06:40 PM
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I run 20's in the mud drags. Mainly to keep my wheel speed up. They work well. But in sand they would probably be garbage.
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02-09-2010, 12:11 PM
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Mine isn't that muddy LOL, but the tires are similar. The paddles came with the bike from back east, Arkansas or Oklahoma someplace, which may be why they are small. I got some 21's today for the other bike, we'll see how it works out. In the sand, the choice will be paddles that might not be the right size, or worn-out A/Ts. I'm thinking the kids will have more fun with the paddles.
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2004 KFX 700, Quadzilla (green), Muzzy pipe, Twin-Air filter, 42.5 pilots, 155f, 160r jets, screws out 2.5 turns, 6* key, White bros CDI, 2 washers on needles, polished slides. Carbon fiber snorkel/scoop.
2004 KFX 700, Pumpkin (orange), FMF pipe, repacked FMF Titanium 4 muffler with "quiet" insert, K&N/Outerwears filter, 40 pilots, 145 f, 150 r jets, screws out 1.75 turns, washer on needles, polished slides.
Both airboxes modified by cutting out the "wall".
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02-09-2010, 12:16 PM
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T Dilley, you hate those air box cover tabs too huh..? 
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