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Copied this off a another forum---Probably will effect some of you guys.



Just got a letter from my fuel supplier Dion and Sons stating that CARB has issued an advisory that states we cannot buy race fuel anymore unless it is for a sanctioned race event and race vehicles. This letter states that these do not count as race vehicles, (sand rails, cars,trucks, 4x4s motorcycles and atv's.) The letter states you must have vehicle vin #,Name of sancted race event, date of race, and racing association or sanctioning body membership id number. The advisoty # is 397 if you want to look it up. ..

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Glad I don't live in California
 

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Why race fuel? Does it contain lead or something?
 

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Why race fuel? Does it contain lead or something?
Because its know to cause cancer like everthing else that they think is dangerous. It seems like that's the excuse to put regulations on something if they have no real reason.

Not sure the real reason but I bet it something to do with tree huggers and its not environmental friendly
 

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So are they trying to stop us from using it? Like we get our bikes impounded if we are caught with it? Or are they just trying to stop the dealers from selling it? You never can tell with california.
 

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If the Greenies in CA get their way, the only thing you will see on the dunes of CA will be one of these.

An all Electric ATV. :eek:


Has anyone ever done a search for Electric ATV? Look what you see when you click on this particular link: Electric ATVs

That's right, our beloved V as the picture page for Electricatvs.com shopping hub.:cool:
 

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Figured that would happen sooner or later. GladI dont live there anymore.
 

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If the Greenies in CA get their way, the only thing you will see on the dunes of CA will be one of these.

An all Electric ATV. :eek:


Has anyone ever done a search for Electric ATV? Look what you see when you click on this particular link: Electric ATVs

That's right, our beloved V as the picture page for Electricatvs.com shopping hub.:cool:


No---They would have to hover above the ground also as that electric one would still leave a foot print:p:p

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I remember years ago reading an article about a study claiming that the vinyl that they made car interiors with caused cancer and the tree hugging goody goodies were trying to get a law past that all interiors had to be either fabric or real leather.After a while it came out that the cancer was caused in test animals that eat the vinyl.Also the group pushing for it was split into two because half saw that a law would make more cows used for leather so they started fighting eachother .They can't even agree on what they are fighting for .It is such a huge joke.
 

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THIS IS THE MAIN NUT CASE CAUSING MAYHEM ARB Chairman Mary D. Nichols
Her exact words were in a interview, that she has no responsibility to her office for what CARB dose down the road due to the fact she is not an elected official

I hope Arnold gets a RASH!B)
 

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SALES, SUPPLY, AND USE REQUIREMENTS
The purpose of this advisory is to inform refiners, blenders, importers, and distributors of racing fuel of the regulations and requirements concerning the supply, sales, and use of gasoline used in racing vehicles (referred to herein as "racing fuel" or "racing gasoline") in California. This advisory applies only to motor vehicles. See the definition of "motor vehicle" below.
The California Reformulated Gasoline Regulations (RFG) found in Title 13 of the California Code of Regulations (CCR), Sections 2250-2273.5 require California gasoline sold, offered for sale, supplied or offered for supply as a motor vehicle fuel to meet certain and specific chemical content and physical property specifications, including, essentially, a zero lead (Pb) content requirement.
"Supply" means to provide or transfer a product to a physically separate facility, vehicle, or transportation system. Thus, any person in the marketing chain, including an end user / purchaser fueling his own vehicle, is supplying gasoline and is subject to the California RFG Regulations.
"Motor vehicle" is defined as a self-propelled vehicle in section 415 of the California Vehicle Code. Therefore, racing vehicles are by definition motor vehicles. Please note that boats and airplanes are not defined as motor vehicles.
"Racing vehicle" is defined as a competition vehicle not used on public highways. Further, if you can drive it to the track, it is not a racing vehicle. Racing vehicles are exempted from California Air Resources Board (CARB) vehicular air pollution control requirements in section 43001 of the California Health and Safety Code. Racing fuel (gasoline used in racing vehicles), however, is not exempt from the California RFG requirements except as provided in Section 2261(f) of the CCR.
Section 2261(f) specifically provides, in part, that sub-article 2 (Standards for Gasoline) and section 2253.4 (Lead/Phosphorus in Gasoline) "shall not apply to gasoline where the person selling, offering or supplying the gasoline demonstrates as an affirmative defense that the person has taken reasonably prudent precautions to assure that the gasoline is used only in racing vehicles."
CARB considers gasoline (leaded or unleaded) used in racing vehicles for testing, practice, or actual competition for and during a sanctioned racing event to be exempt from the reformulated gasoline (RFG) specifications. Competition vehicles driven to a racing event on a public highway rather than being transported on a trailer or other carrier are not racing vehicles. Motor vehicles used for work, pleasure, or recreation, i.e. cars, trucks, 4X4’s, motorcycles, dirt bikes, ATV’s, dune buggies, sand rails, and other vehicles not strictly used for racing events, are not racing vehicles and gasoline used in these vehicles is not exempt from California RFG requirements. Therefore, it is illegal to sell, offer for sale, supply, and offer for supply non-complying racing fuel (leaded and unleaded) for motor vehicles in California except in competition racing vehicles.
Many refiners, blenders, and distributors of racing fuel sell and supply a "street legal" high octane unleaded
gasoline (racing fuel) blend that complies with the specifications for California RFG. This complying racing
ED – Form #075 (Rev. 07/04) ED – Form #075 (Rev. 07/04)
gasoline is readily available and is legal for use in all motor vehicles both on and off road. Retailers may sell this racing gasoline as complying California RFG.

Leaded and unleaded racing fuel that does not meet the California RFG specifications (non-complying racing gasoline) can only be sold, offered for sale, offered for supply, or supplied for use in true, competition racing vehicles. The retailer, i.e. service station, speed shop, auto parts store, fuel distributor, and race track fuel dispensing facility, etc., who is selling or supplying this non-complying gasoline must "take reasonable prudent precautions to assure that the gasoline will be used only in racing vehicles." If the vehicle this fuel is to be used in is registered or licensed for on-road or off-road use, this usually indicates that non-complying racing fuel cannot be used in it and the sale or supply of the fuel should not take place. CARB will consider this and all other relevant circumstances to determine if "reasonable prudent precautions" were followed in any particular case. In evaluating whether "reasonable and prudent precautions" were followed, CARB will consider whether the retailer kept a record of each sale of non-complying racing gasoline and whether each sales record contains the following information:

Date of Fuel Purchase
Name, Address, and Telephone Number of Purchaser / User
Brand, Name, and Grade (octane rating) of Fuel Purchased
Type or Description of Vehicle(s) to be Fueled
Is the vehicle(s) to be fueled registered or licensed for on-road use?
Is the vehicle(s) to be fueled registered or licensed for off-road use?
License Number and VIN, if any, of Vehicle(s) to be Fueled
Name of Sanctioned Racing Event
Date of Event
Name of Racing Association or Sanctioning Body
Racing Association or Sanctioning Body Membership ID Number
Signature under penalty of perjury that the gasoline will be used only in the above racing vehicle(s) for the above sanctioned racing event
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Refiners, blenders, importers, and distributors must also take "reasonable prudent precautions" and prove that adequate steps have been taken to limit sales of non-complying racing fuel to racing vehicles, exclusively. CARB will consider, but is not limited to, the following to be reasonable prudent precautions: import notifications, production reporting, labeling, record keeping, distributor training, and providing customer education materials. The requirement to take reasonable prudent precautions applies to all shipments of non-complying racing fuel regardless of container size, i.e. railcars, cargo tanks, barrels, drums, cans, etc. Specifically for importers and in-state refiners and blenders, in addition to the above, reasonable prudent precautions should include notification to CARB of the import shipment or in-state production, and labeling of each batch and container of non-complying racing gasoline. Refiners, blenders, importers, and distributors may enter into an enforcement protocol with CARB or modify their existing protocol as appropriate.
Bulk containers, including but not limited to railcars, cargo tanks, barrels, drums, and cans, as well as bills of lading, delivery tickets, and invoices for all shipments of non-complying racing fuel offered or supplied for sale and use in California must be conspicuously labeled with the following:
Legal For Use ONLY In Competition Racing Vehicles
Not Legal For Use In Any Other Motor Vehicle​
Letters or statements included with shipping documents outlining the legal uses of the racing fuel, instructions sent to distributors and retailers concerning legal sales and use of racing fuel, or other specific steps outlined in a new or modified enforcement protocol with CARB Enforcement Division, are additional ways for refiners, blenders, importers, and distributors to comply with the taking "reasonable prudent precautions" requirement.
CARB will evaluate whether all of the information discussed in this Advisory #397 is included in the records. The absence of such records or records that lack the above information argue against "reasonable and prudent precautions" having been taken.

 

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I gotta get out of here. I can't even defend this sh!thole anymore. I live very close and sometimes have to work in a city called Davis. It is a city copying the same utopian type of attitude similiar to what people in the F#ckhole city of Berkley do. I can barely do it anymore. So many people live here thinking they are more "enlightened" than the everyone else in the country. This is prius heaven...if you're into that sort of thing..

excuse me while I go clean my gun.:mad:
 

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The only problem living in Oregon, is when the P.O.S's in Calif make there damn rules the freekin liberal trasient Californians in Portland adopt the same fn rules too. :mad: I hate California,:mad: but not most of the people, just the one's that think they can save the world by shoving there greeny laws down our throat.:pissed:

PS anything north of Sac. is not what I consider California.
 

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The worst part is that it is the influx of Californians moving up into Oregon that is going to shut down our dunes along the Coast. :mad:
 

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Well now, as far as cars and women? I think you'd have a hard time beating that in California.;)

Hell, we've got Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer and Diane Fienstien. Just lovely.B)
 
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