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OK--here we go-----:mad:
They intend to put the IRS in control of fineing you
if you don`t buy and keep your health insurance up to date.
100 bucks to 750 bucks per occourence:mad:

Thats right--you have to buy and pay for health insurance
and KEEP IT UP TO DATE
if you don`t
you get fined,,,and fined and fined.
They intend you use a teir system.
expodntially inreaseing your fines as you fail to comply.

Also--they are hiding it all.
Obama promised to use cspan to show all.

now--cspan is banned from the proceedings---everyone is [except those directly involved.]:mad:
more obama lies exposed and much more power handed to the IRS.
Scary stuff--big brother taking control...
game over----

mike `s got it right
M. moore for pres!!!!!
 

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OK--here we go-----:mad:
They intend to put the IRS in control of fineing you
if you don`t buy and keep your health insurance up to date.
100 bucks to 750 bucks per occourence:mad:
YouTube- Don't Want Health Insurance? It'll Cost You.

YouTube- Does Speaker Nancy Pelosi Dodge Health Care Question?
Thats right--you have to buy and pay for health insurance
and KEEP IT UP TO DATE
if you don`t
you get fined,,,and fined and fined.
They intend you use a teir system.
expodntially inreaseing your fines as you fail to comply.

Also--they are hiding it all.
Obama promised to use cspan to show all.

now--cspan is banned from the proceedings---everyone is [except those directly involved.]:mad:
YouTube- Obama's LIES about Health Care debate LIVE on CSPAN
more obama lies exposed and much more power handed to the IRS.
Scary stuff--big brother taking control...
game over----

mike `s got it right
M. moore for pres!!!!!
YouTube- Michael Moore Discusses Massachusetts' Healthcare Plan

Michael Moore is a left wing, liberal mouthpiece who has no idea as to what he is really talking about. Do private insurance company have limits on the care they provide??? Absolutely!!!! However if you want more coverage you can get it, the coverage will cost you more money, or you can pay for expenses straight out of your pocket. Perfect??? No!! But better and more sustainable than any other system in the world.

Now really look at what is being offered. The dems want to basically scrap the best medical system in the world. Almost all of the other highly populated countries that have a socialized health care system say it's unsustainble and are trying to get away from it.

As far as being denied some level of treatment because you chose to pay the cheaper premiums well that's going to happen. But do you really think that the government won't ration care??? If you do then your kidding yourself. There is NOWAY to cover millions more people and not have to pay for it. Under our system now if you feel you are wrongly refused care then you have legal action you can take. There will be no legal recourse you can take when your care is rationed. And that is IF someone, who has no medical knowledge, decides you even qualify for it.

I will agree that the Democrats always have great talking points and make thinks sound great for the people, "Medical coverage for everyone"!! Yeah that sounds great. But in the real world where you have to pay for things it just dosen't work. Insurance companys are there to make a profit just like any other company. The government is not. Without competion there is no incentive to hold down costs and improve products. And as far as operating overhead goes the government has NEVER been able to compete with the private sector, no matter what they may try and tell you. If that were true then why are there so many privately owned government contractors?? I'll tell you why because the private sector is more cost effective.

The Obama administration, which includes Pelosi and Reid, are wiping the ass with the constitution and stepping WAY BEYOND the constitution. The only thing the government is mandated by the constitution to provide is national defense. They need to stick to that and get out of citizens lives and pockets.

Make no mistake, the only people who want to centralize power are those who feel they will have the power!!!!!!
 

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Please tell me you are kidding...... Micheal Moore is a Wacko Leftwing Liberal Freak.

There is something that is being missed here. Right now, 81% of Americans have some kind of Health Care. The Bill currently going through congress (As it's written), still isn't going to cover everyone. For the 2.3 TRILLION dollars, they are claiming we are going to cover 98% of people in the US (By the way, this also includes ANYONE living in the US, Legal or Illeagal). Since 81% of Americans already have insurance, the 2.3 TRILLION dollars is to pay for only 17% more people. And the best part is we get to pay the bill for 4 years before we get the coverage. :D

Only in Washington DC is this a good deal. :mad:
 

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The friggen government just needs to stay out of my life. PERIOD!!! I have my own insurance and it works for me!

I've said this before and will say it again.. The only way to get rid of poverty is to quit feeding it. These useless bums that are out there that are mooching of the the public will either find a means to take care of themselves and their loved ones or they will die! If your not willing to help yourself, then the heck with you! Go crawl in a hole and die! Why should we, the ones who actually work and abide by the too many laws in place, have to support the sorriness of others??

People need to be responsible for their own actions! It's way out of hand and has been for way too long!

If I loose my job then that's my responsibilty.. There are many jobs out there to be had, the problem is, they are not desirable jobs! I may have to change fields for a short(maybe long) period of time, but the oppurtunities are there! I may have to move, I may have to do alot of things that I don't like or want to do, but ultimately, the job I just lost was my decision to take in the first place! Since it was my decision, then why make others pay for my own actions!
 

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AMEN!!! I am tired of all of this crap! If I were to go out of business and be without a job, and I had to work at McDonalds during the day and another job at night to support my family that is what I would do! I would not expect anything to be given to me, you should earn what you get! I do not mind paying my own way, but to pay for others and have them expect it, the entitlement mentality just sickens me! That includes my sisters mindset, get your ass off the couch and be productive or get nothing!
 

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got this in an email...

"An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before,
but had once failed an entire class.
That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.
The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan".
All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A...
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B.
The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.
As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.
The second test average was a D!
No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F..
The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed."


 
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