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I have an 05 BF 650, I took it last week to have recall work done on the front end. They replaced the A arm and other parts on it. Well I went riding today for the first time since I got it back and was there maybe 15 minutes when I switched to 4x4. I then switched back out and both front wheels locked up completely. Got pulled back to the truck and the front end actually freed up. So I rode a little more in 4x4 to see what would happen and when I switched to 2 it locked up again and was popping a little. If any of you have any input , it would be greatly appreciated.
 

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I would take it back to whoever did the work. Maybe they screwed up something, but for the life of me I don't know what it could be.
 

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I'm actually taking it back to the dealer Tues. morning but I was just trying to get an idea of what could be going wrong before. Pretty much so I would have my guns loaded for a back yard brawl when they tell me it was something I did :bash:. Anyway, thanks for the reply.
 

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Yea ........Take it back for sure..............They may not have routed the differential cable where it should go.........it may not have enough slack in the cable or could be kinked..................did it seem hard to turn at any time?

If they took the diff off or loosened it the prop shaft may not be in right............

Check the 4x4 actuator connection plug ...........it may not be getting good contact or the wires could be damaged....................like cutting off power supply half way in or out of engaging or disengaging...........
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Don't ride it untill its fixed..........the front locking up is very dangerous!.:eek:........
 

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if anything im going to say its hanging up in the front diff. and its kinda like if you had a manual trans and only put it into gear half way. and let the clutch out. its would pop and grind. until it went into gear or came out. i would thing if they had to remove the diff it would be out of line alittle causing side load on something.
 

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Yeah, it was difficult to steer almost like it does when you lock it with the lever. I hope I didn't screw the belt up because the light came on after limping it back to the truck. Anyway , with it doing this after I got it back from the dealer and it never had this problem before , dealer has to be liable right? Thanks for the input guys.
 

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isnt there a key on the axle shaft when it goes into the diff?? maybe they forgot to put one of them in and its locking up your front end...

the bad news is... whatever has happened is going to be on your arse bc the dealer will not admit to doing anything wrong.... there all the same...so get ready for to bend over when you get the news..
 

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That's exactly what I'm afraid of. There's really no way of proving them liable, but you and I both know they're probably at fault. I know one thing, it's not going to be a pretty site when they tell me I owe them 4 or 5 bills to fix it.
 

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Call them and tell them ...........Firmly " Hey when I got around to unloading .....the front end locked up, I'm not riding it.........I don't want my kids or I getting killed"..........................
 

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I have an 05 BF 650, I took it last week to have recall work done on the front end. They replaced the A arm and other parts on it. Well I went riding today for the first time since I got it back and was there maybe 15 minutes when I switched to 4x4. I then switched back out and both front wheels locked up completely. Got pulled back to the truck and the front end actually freed up. So I rode a little more in 4x4 to see what would happen and when I switched to 2 it locked up again and was popping a little. If any of you have any input , it would be greatly appreciated.
Maybe I mis-read this; when you said the front wheels locked up and you had to get towed back to the truck, I was assuming that you meant that the front wheels locked up (as in would not turn). Now it sounds like you're saying that the front wheels are turning, but the differential is locked (like the yellow lever is pulled in).
Which one is it?
 

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Sorry for the confusion, first when I switched from 4 to 2 the front wheels did lock completely, they would not budge just like if I pulled the front brake handle and held it while trying to go. I then got a pull from someone to the truck, while he was pulling me my front tires were plowing the sand. Just before I got back to the truck the wheels freed up, I don't know how. So I then rode a little way in 4 wheel to see what would happened and it was fine for about 200 yards. I then switched to 2 wheels and almost the same thing execpt the front wheels were rolling but almost like I pulled half brake. It was also very hard to steer. Hope this helps.
 

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That's a tough one. I have no clue.
 

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OK everyone , I have an update, I started checking out the front end today before I took it back to the shop. I pulled the front tires and it looks like the front brakes is what is locking up. I still don't know what the popping was that I heard the other day when I was turning or why it was so hard to turn. To make things worse now my belt light is on so I think I may have pushed it to hard getting back to the truck. I wandering how hard of a fix that is. Any way I dropped it off at the shop and waiting to here back from them to see what's up.
 

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my thoughts on it is if it didnt do it before they worked on it. then why did it happen. you say the brakes. well that kinda wouldnt have anything to do with using 2wd/4wd modes. are the pads down to the metal. did you check to see if you could push the calibar piston back in. popping sounds are metal hitting each other at diffrent speeds. grinding is well metal rubbing each other at diffrent speeds. i like to find out there out come.
 

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OK the verdict, just got the bike back. For a little recap, originaly for the recall they replaced the 2 front knuckles, the A-arms, new tie rods, etc. , Basically steering and suspension. The problem came when they installed the calipers incorrectly. They said that, and along with bad fluid, when the fluid would heat up, the front brakes would lock up. As far as the popping when turning, they didn't see or hear anything wrong after they fixed the brake condition. I don't know, maybe I was halucinating in my fit of rage that was going on after the brakes locked up the first time.:stupid:Anyway, I guess I'll find out more when I take it this weekend for another long ride. I do appreciate everyones help and input, :rock:hopefully no more issues.
 

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It's a good dealer that admits their mistakes.
 

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Camo Joe, you have to be careful lying to the dealer like that about not driving it, Most dealers record the mileage on the work orders to prevent this kind of thing from happening to cover there own butts. It is also normally required to record the mileage for warranty claims. Just a heads up for everyone
 

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Camo Joe, you have to be careful lying to the dealer like that about not driving it, Most dealers record the mileage on the work orders to prevent this kind of thing from happening to cover there own butts. It is also normally required to record the mileage for warranty claims. Just a heads up for everyone


Thanks for the heads up about what dealers do to cover their butts................I guess they could call the Kawi Police and have someone locked up.

:notworthy: After all we all know its a dealers world and they are the Gods !!!!!!!!!!
 

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It's all good fellas, we all know that sometimes there's a price to pay to have the most bad a#? bikes on the planet :rock: . Excuse my French. Be safe.
 

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Sounds like the same thang that happened to us, come to find out we broke an axle >4x4!!! It locked up and all we could do is turn! We ran in 3 wheel drive that whole weekend!!
 
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