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Hey guys, I'll be going to Bedford PA in May. Last year I went there with my studded Chen Chengs, but they don't allow studs there and of course, those tires weren't worth nothing w/o the studs in them. Anyway, one guy who beat me with a stretched out rail banchee was running 25x12x12 TSL super swamper atv tires. He said he wished he had 26" which is what I was thinking about getting as far as size. Some of you guys might be running different tires and different sizes and I just wanted to get some of your opinions about what brand and sizes have been working for you in similar race conditions. My V will be extended 14" if that makes any difference. The track is hard packed dirt. 500'. This video of one of my good friends Big E, gives you an idea of the track condition. Thanks for any input.

 

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Skat Trak does make paddles for hard dirt applications, I think it's the Terrain Trak or Desert Storm and up to 25"
 

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What about a set of modified knobbies with some of the knobs removed?
 

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Skat Trak does make paddles for hard dirt applications, I think it's the Terrain Trak or Desert Storm and up to 25"

I'm going to have to check on them. I'm really thinking I should go with a 26 or 27" though. Not sure how much that would change things in 500'.
 

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What about a set of modified knobbies with some of the knobs removed?

I could do that, but was hoping to find a good tire that met the criteria without moddifing them. Might be a possibility though.
 

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Do they have a class for 4 wheel drive ATV's? Got anymore info on this?
 

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Hey Skip, at Bedford, there isn't a 4x4 class there. I'd imagine you could run it, but there isn't a specific 4x4 class. Some seriously fast bikes running there though.
 

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I have had good luck with 25in turftamers running 300 ft.2.5-3 psi
strap the rear down real good and hangon
 

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I am guessing the Turf Tamers are a little flatter profile than the Cheng Shins giving more footprint area.
 

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She's stutted all the way around.

I looked at the Turf Tamers. They look like I might blow them off at that track. I'm really leaning towards the TSL's 26x12x12's.
 

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Turf tamers hook much better than chengs with out studs.
14" ext? Isn't that a little overkill?
 

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On a hard track I think you would want more tread contacting the ground... as in more biting edges which is what a knobby would give you. I am just basing this on my tire knowledge, not experience.
 

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Turf tamers hook much better than chengs with out studs.
14" ext? Isn't that a little overkill?

It might be, Pipo. I'm just experimenting with it for the first couple races though. Maybe one, if it fails to perform. I took the +4 off ole blue and want to attatch it to the 10" I have now and see what will happen. Last year with the 10" on at Surry sand drags - using 26" Blasters, I'd still pull a wheelie 100' down the track. My thinking is that with it extended out a little more, I might be able to eliminate using the wheelie bar. Like I said though...just a test to see what happens. I thought Camo's was awsome when I rode his and I'm pretty sure his is a total of 14" extension. I need corrected if I'm wrong though in my thinking.

I wish I had a set of Turf Tamers just to test out and see how they perform before I end up buying a set. I understand the concept your saying Twyztid. Then again, I wish I could test them all first.

Me and my friends were talking last night too and thought that since I have mad torque comming out of the whole, but seem to loose top end, that going to a 27" tire might be better too. As you can tell, I have a lot of mixed emotions about my set up.
 

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If you REALLY think you want to try some 27" Super Swamper TSL ATV tires, Interco Tire has some 27x12-10 cosmetic blems for $20/ea plus shipping. You have to call them to order them. They weigh 30lbs a tire, though.

Cosmetic Blemished Tires Available Direct! | News Articles | Interco Tire

If you go with the 27", you almost might be better off with a set that are worn down to around 1/3 tread remaining. You don't need the 1" tread depth for the hard-pack track and it would save weight also.
 

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Chris Chris Chris
lol

12.5 with Blasters in sand...I had no wheelie problems a couple weeks ago.
 

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Hey Tom, check this out. This wheelie was kinda minor compared to a couple I carried down there. Bouncing off the wheelie bar. I want to get rid of the wheelie bar hopefully. With it extended more, I realize I might blow the tires off, but then again, might not. I just have to try though and see what it feels like. :lol:

 

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Thanks for the hook up on the link Twyztid! Also, I just got off the phone with Joe at Fullerton. He was thinking also the Terrain Track like Tom said. Go with a 26". He also mentioned something about another Blaster tire with 32 paddles but cutting grooves inbetween to reduce weight. Couple options floatn now.
 

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I am beginning to wonder if bigger is really better as far as keeping the front end on the hard ground. The bigger you go the less it will want to spin. The tire either has to grab or spin. A 25" tire with that +14 swinger might be the way to go to give you just enough wheel spin to keep it from lifting. :hmm:
 

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Thanks for the hook up on the link Twyztid! Also, I just got off the phone with Joe at Fullerton. He was thinking also the Terrain Track like Tom said. Go with a 26". He also mentioned something about another Blaster tire with 32 paddles but cutting grooves inbetween to reduce weight. Couple options floatn now.
yeah, actually the Blasters are originally 32 paddle

would think they should be a lot cheaper if they don't have to remove any paddles, might even not have them comp cut. They would weigh a little more...but would be much stiffer

fricken tires, when do you say enough is enough :lol:
 

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VFM, do you have some 12" diameter rims already? I may have come across a pair of 27x12-12 tires for cheap at a location auction (that ends tonight) that could be modified to be lighter (I have the tools & ability to do this). They are brand new Blackwater XT's. If the price stays low enough I will probably just buy them anyway to put up on craigslist or something.


This is what they look like. Seems like they would work similar to terrain traks except they would be heavier. I bet there is 5-lbs+ of rubber that could be removed from each tire.

 
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