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funny thing is it is the american toyotas that are the problem if you buy one that was built in japan you shouldn't have a problem. and people need to learn how to drive put it in neutral and step on the brakes when you stop shut it off not rocket science by any means.
 

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I've always wondered that too. Why didnt those freaked out people just turn the key backwards?....BAM!! no more acceleration.
 

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funny thing is it is the american toyotas that are the problem if you buy one that was built in japan you shouldn't have a problem. and people need to learn how to drive put it in neutral and step on the brakes when you stop shut it off not rocket science by any means.
This is true
Toyotas built in Japan .......pedals by Denso(Japanese company)
Toyotas built in US ........Pedals built by American company
You can take it as American quaity(or lack of) taking down Toyota or Toyota using American auto manufaturers thinking and going with a cheaper american pedal to save money.
 

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Why didn't they ship the new pedals to people that already owned the cars rather then the manufacturing plants???
 

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My first reaction would be get on the brakes hard like a dyno pull get it in to N or kill the key when safe speed the engine has a rev limiter.

Like that comuter plane that went down in buffalo Ny some folks dont' have no common sense you dont yank back on the yoke when stalling its nose down throttle up then pull it out...

That split second to avoid a crash is everything even in a vehicle.
 

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I own an 07 Tundra. I have been a Chevy person all my life..I had a 96' S-10 that was an EXCELLENT truck for 6 years. Only time will tell how long this one will last, but so far it has been the BEST vehicle I have ever had.. The reason they're blowing this out of proportion is because Toyota is the leading vehicle seller in the US.. There are recalls ALL THE TIME on every type vehicle out there.. And now that Toyota FINALLY had one, the other manufacturers feel like they have to pounce on this opportunity, because Toyota has been killng them on sales.. Just my 2 cents..:D
 

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I used to work for a toyota dealer in the late 90's and that was when they had the recall on the v6 headgaskets.Toyota blamed it on the american company that made them but here it was toyota that sent them the wrong specs for the gaskets.I wouldn't doubt that toyota screwed this up too..
 

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funny thing is it is the american toyotas that are the problem if you buy one that was built in japan you shouldn't have a problem. and people need to learn how to drive put it in neutral and step on the brakes when you stop shut it off not rocket science by any means.


well allow me to put a spanner in the works!!!

its Toyota world wide!!

here we have Toyotas made right here in South Africa!!

they have the same issues!! and what makes it worst, is that people have been complaining about the pedals from 2007, Toyota SA, has blamed the mats in the car, and have kept the thing quiet, should see all the people here now coming up and saying that this is an old issue that toyota just refused to acknowledge, its all about the profit, and milking the consumer regardless of the cost human or other wise!!!

Toyota has other problems that they refuse to acknowledge, locally we have a Toyota SUV, with huge handling and safety issues, many accidents, couz of bad suspension design ........................, they now fit an electronic stability control, better however far from right!!

Toyota has built a reputation, and are riding that wave!!

they still make great Motors and Gearboxes!!:D
 

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IMO most anything nowa days has all the dangers removed from it and a lot can't think for themselves as they rely on that all the thinking is done for them. Maybe it went that way the same time that everything all turned to being politically correct.

Who knows maybe it's Gods way of telling us he is unhappy in the way we have become and it's his way of weeding out the stupid that cannot think beyond what has become their safety bubble.

I remember a time before ignition locks that it was a common occurance to have linkage or cable sticking, and even transmission linkage stick while you were driving, and everyone knew how to address it after they safely pulled to the side.

Boy, look at the cattle we have become in this far from perfect world.
 

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I own an 07 Tundra. I have been a Chevy person all my life..I had a 96' S-10 that was an EXCELLENT truck for 6 years. Only time will tell how long this one will last, but so far it has been the BEST vehicle I have ever had.. The reason they're blowing this out of proportion is because Toyota is the leading vehicle seller in the US.. There are recalls ALL THE TIME on every type vehicle out there.. And now that Toyota FINALLY had one, the other manufacturers feel like they have to pounce on this opportunity, because Toyota has been killng them on sales.. Just my 2 cents..:D
dude,it is a little deeper than that.they sold cars three days after the government told them to stop,they knew of this issue for a long time and didn't do a thing about it.this could bankrupt them.i heard the insurance companies are going back and reopening claims from years ago to see if indeed some of these accidents were caused by the pedal.imo the ceo of toyota should step the f down he is a pos for doing what he did.
 

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toyota kept prodution going ,and they knew there was problems.
Big manufacturers think in self interest.
If the lawsuits cost do not exceed the cost of recall>they will settle the lawsuites.
Let the defect go.
This problem really is a clusterfukk of defects.
It is a gas by wire ,cpu problem with a linkage problem to boot!
Then they used the floormatt issue to try to cover it up.
Then more people died.

Imagine your wife{not the most savy driver]but still--your prized possesion--your whole world----the only one you will ever truly love.
She didn`t have the reaction skill to stop---and crashed and died.
her death could have been prevented if they thought about people before money----
Is that not an outrage!!!!!!!:mad:
For me--toyota is the example of how all automakers greed takes the place of care for human life.

Funny--note--The grand pubah---of toyota---[winkie toyota]:p
drives an audi:D
 

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Buy american!
you almost can't buy american anymore.gm builds most of there vehicles from canada,therefore the person that built that car or truck spent that check in a foriegn country.even though gm is still based out of detriot,that to me is a foriegn car.my wife drives a chevrolet equinox suv,it is built in canada and on the transmission there is a tag that says made in japan:(same with ford execpt they build out of mexico.i have always been a gm guy but there just as bad.you figure we bailed there asses out and they arent really passing any incentives off to the customers.people should be able to walk out of any gm dealership with one hell of a deal,but there not....ticks me off
 

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Buy american!
you almost can't buy american anymore.gm builds most of there vehicles from canada,therefore the person that built that car or truck spent that check in a foriegn country.even though gm is still based out of detriot,that to me is a foriegn car.my wife drives a chevrolet equinox suv,it is built in canada and on the transmission there is a tag that says made in japan:(same with ford execpt they build out of mexico.i have always been a gm guy but there just as bad.you figure we bailed there asses out and they arent really passing any incentives off to the customers.people should be able to walk out of any gm dealership with one hell of a deal,but there not....ticks me off

If not American then at least North American :D
 

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I've always wondered that too. Why didnt those freaked out people just turn the key backwards?....BAM!! no more acceleration.

then when/if the wheel locks, how do you steer??


it's just a big bunch of nonsense. I've had the pedal stick on me in my silverado 2500. pull the floor mat back and fix the problem. that's all that is wrong with the toyota's. My mother has a corolla, (modern Geo prism) the floor mat slides under the pedal and you can't floor it sometimes.

Like they said. it's just the good ol american quality control. no jap cars are affected.

they have to blow it out of proprition to get people to stray from toyota and buy GM, FORD and Chrysler so the govt can try to reclaim some of OUR bail out money.

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Like VForce said.. I agree 100% !!!!!!!! All because they are the leading car seller in th U.S.
 

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well over 8million vehicles to be repaired, wonder who will pay for that!!!

the consumer who buys the next Toyota, the cost of the recall will one way or another be passed on to the consumer!!

me not getting a Toyota for a long time!!:p

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Good point. The customers from this point forward will pay more, but they will because of the Toyota name of past. (reliability before this issue)
 

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It's more than just a Floor Mat issue. I have a buddy that works at the local Toyota dealership. They are installing a new throttle Reinforcement Bar in the cars effected.

Here is the list of effected cars.
Models involved in the floor mat recall are:
2005 to 2010 Toyota Avalon
2007 to 2010 Toyota Camry
2009-2010 Toyota Corolla
2009-2010 Toyota Matrix
2009-2010 Pontiac Vibe (a "twin" to the Matrix, manufactured for GM by Toyota)
2004 to 2009 Toyota Prius
2009-2010 Toyota Venza
2008-2010 Toyota Highlander
2005 to 2010 Toyota Tacoma
2007 to 2010 Toyota Tundra
2007 to 2010 Lexus ES350
2006 to 2010 Lexus IS250
2006 to 2010 Lexus IS 350.

Those involved in the sticking throttle recall are:
2005-2010 Avalon
2007-2010 Camry (certain models, excluding Camry Hybrid)
2009-2010 Corolla
2009-2010 Matrix
2010 Highlander
2009-2010 RAV4
2008-2010 Sequoia
2007-2010 Tundra.

There are a bunch of problems involved with just turning the motor off. The steering wheel can lock, Anyone ever try to use power brakes or power steering with the motor off? Plus, every accident I have ever been involved in, it all happens FAST.

As far as "Toyota Quality" they do make a decent product. But has everyone forgotten the rust problems they have had with their Trucks? When your frame rusts so bad that your spare tire FALLS OFF, you have a serious problem. :lol:
 
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